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Anti-Dystopians 2.1: A conversation with Kyra Jasper and Andreyka Natalegawa

Alina Utrata
Sep 20, 2021
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August is like if Sunday was a month; so September must be Monday morning. And with that, the Anti-Dystopians are back from our summer holiday!

To start off Season 2 of the Anti-Dystopians, we’re zeroing in on some of the global aspects of technology politics. This week, it’s Southeast Asia. I talked to Kyra Jasper and Andreyka Natalegawa about the digital landscape of SE Asia, from Facebook’s relationship with the junta in Myanmar and fake news laws in Indonesia to Huwaei’s plans for 5G and ASEAN Smart Cities.

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Articles mentioned in this podcast

Articles by Kyra and Andreyka

  • Controlling the Information Space: Big Tech and Free Speech in Southeast Asia

  • Mitigating Cybersecurity Risks for ASEAN Smart Cities

Articles on Southeast Asia

  • Digital trade deal ripe for the Indo-Pacific

  • The e-Conomy SEA 2020 report by Google, Temasek and Bain & Company

Articles on Myanmar

  • Months After Coup, Myanmar Accelerates Toward Surveillance State

  • Myanmar junta blocks Facebook to quell dissent

Articles on Indonesia

  • Seeking a Viable Alternative to Indonesia’s Blasphemy Laws

  • Interpretations of article 156a of the Indonesian Criminal Code on Blasphemy and religious defamation (a legal and human rights analysis)

  • Jakarta governor Ahok found guilty of blasphemy

  • Buni Yani gets 1.5 years in jail for hate speech after selectively edited a video in which former Jakarta Governor Basuki “Ahok” Tjahaja Purnama warned Thousand Islands regency residents about people using Quranic verses for political gain.

  • Privacy alarm in Indonesia over president's leaked vaccine certificate

Articles on Thailand

  • Lèse-majesté epidemic in Thailand reaches new milestone

  • Thailand government files lese-majesty suit against banned opposition leader


The Anti-Dystopians has a brand new Twitter!

We have a new, podcast-exclusive Twitter account! Please do follow us to get updates about new episodes as well as other tech news commentary.

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*taps mic* Is this thing on??? Keep your 👀 out for a new episode of the Anti-Dysotpians with @kj_spade and @a_natalegawa coming soon!
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Short Summer Reading List

A brief list of some of the things I’ve been reading

  • This week, Max Chafkin’s biography of the PayPal and Palantir founder The Contrarian: Peter Thiel and Silicon Valley's Pursuit of Power is released. (I’ve definitely not been eagerly anticipating it for 12 months.) We spoke to Andrew Granato, whose seminal article on Thiel is featured in Chafkin’s book, last November about Thiel.

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    Andrew Granato @agranato42
    Congratulations to @chafkin on The Contrarian, and a thank you for his generosity in credit. Working on Thiel’s story was a tremendous experience and I’m thrilled that it has been useful to reporters working on covering one of the most fascinating people in America.
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    You can listen to the Anti-Dystopians episode here, or check out the newsletter here, in case you missed it. Also quite good, a review of the book by my supervisor David Runciman in the LRB.

  • The entire FSGxLogic series on technology has been outstanding, and Alec MacGillis’s book Fulfillment: Winning and Losing in One-Click America is no exception. Despite my desire to devour everything and anything relating to Amazon, I was behind on Fulfillment—but it was well worth the wait. With absolutely masterful story-telling, the book brings together so many disparate threads in what is ultimately a history of American cities, as well as tech. Highly, highly recommend.

  • The FAA has grounded Richard Branson’s Virgin Galactic after it turns out that some very dangerous things might have happened during the billionaire’s highly publicized flight to space. 🙃🙃🙃 #ICYMI — my Boston Review article on the private space race (spoiler alert: I think it’s bad).

  • How many philosophers do you know who get Vogue covers? Amia Srinivasan’s The Right to Sex is supposed to be phenomenal, and the snippets I’ve read stand up to the hype. Check out the NY Times excerpt: What’s Wrong With Sex Between Professors and Students? It’s Not What You Think.

  • The Other Afghan Woman is a phenomenal long read on Afghan women in the countryside, for whom the American occupation has not been a liberating experience, and what the Taliban takeover means for the “two” Afghanistans

  • The new issue of Logic Magazine “Kids” looks great, especially Victor Petrov’s article “Socialist Cyborgs: When Bulgaria tried to save communism with the kids.”

  • In some schadenfreude news, it turns out that the best predictor of how quickly people learned to code was language aptitude, rather than mathematical ability. How nice.

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